Time Warner to test internet billing based on usage

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Funny, but what many of you may or may not know (as some are posting, they obviously do know) but your Internet accounts aren't *really* unlimited, even now.

Most ISPs - whether its as big as Comcast or as small as some podunk town's DSL provider, have bandwidth limits. This is especially important on cable systems, because cable Internet is a SHARED service. By shared, I mean you share bandwidth with everyone else on the same node of your provider's cable backbone network. Thus, if you're using a ton of bandwidth, you're degrading your neighbor's service. Since I don't want my service to suck because my neighbor is running a web server on his/her cable modem connection, I have no problem with ISPs charging folks who go over their bandwidth caps. These caps are generally set reasonably for most folks who use the Internet for legal purposes. Generally speaking, they aim to catch people who are downloading illegal content and/or operating servers on accounts where it is not permitted. That isn't to say that as Hollywood and the MPAA figure out that releasing media via the Internet is actually an attractive, legal option, that your bandwidth needs won't increase. Let's just hope they increase their caps as needed.

Now before you get to jumping all over me, I'll tell you how I know this. It's because I worked for several years in the broadband Internet industry. I've worked with cable and DSL services. My company quietly began the same thing--except instead of just billing them for the overage, we gave them three months to decrease usage. If they didn't, they were suspended until they upgraded their accounts to commercial (higher limits) ones. And, in our Acceptable Use Policy, we outlined the bandwidth cap(s) for all to see. So read your AUP, its probably in there. ;)
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I've never actually looked before, but I see here that there is an option for those who might not need the same bandwidth that I might want (although, I've never seen my computer download anything at 5000kbps let alone 1000kbps, the best I ever got at one time was about 400kbps).

http://www.oceanic.com/OceanicWebApps/I ... Rates.html

Does anyone actually use speeds that fast? Or would the lower rate work for most people?
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I'm not a specific anime seeder for torrents and I don't use my computer for business or online games, but I've been perfectly happy with my 730kps download and 60kps upload speeds.

From 2004 to ?Aug 2007 I was getting around 640kps download and 44kps upload speeds and never had a problem with those either excpt when I was trying to seed obscure anime torrents. In those situations the 44kps upload speed was rather limiting.
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Has anyone using Time Warner started experiencing dropped connections and slower service the past few weeks?

Sometimes when I'm trying to go a website, the website won't load for awhile like it got stuck. Then all of a sudden I get the error page saying it's not loading. This has been happening to me the past five or six weeks. One time I typed in anime-beta's URL wrong and a Road Runner error page popped up for some reason (never had that happen before).

My service went down for two hours about 10 days ago (pretty rare for that to happen). I wonder if they're monitoring me more closely or something. :D

This "stuck webpage" situation is annoying. I haven't had this since my dial up days. Maybe my equipment is just going bad. :)
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Yep...Let me check my sources and see if anything is going on...
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Post by Keropi »

Sounds good.

Please let me know if they have anything to say about it. :)
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I personally feel like this is going to end badly. I'm already paying like $50-60/month for comcast highspeed and have never been able to pull the anywhere near the bandwidths they advertise at Mbps, I can only get 300-400kbps max. Between me and my gf, we're always downloading something 10's-100's of gigs per month. If I'm paying on a per usage basis and I'm getting the percentages of advertised speeds that I'm getting now, then I'll be extra pissed. Not to mention comcast (at least here) likes to drag their feet when there is a problem with your internet/cable. I already know comcast will intentionally cap excessive usage, they'll only allow capped modems on there servers. I just don't want to be stuck with a huge bill one month because I was playing an online game or something. I understand that they're people who don't use the internet that much, the point is there is already options out there for people who don't use the internet that much ie dial-up, dsl etc... Cable internet was marketed as the option for people who surf/download all the time at high speeds, why screw with that.
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I don't think there is anything to worry about... {unless you're really breaking down their network, which should be really hard}

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With Technology advancing so quickly and the major price competition between Cable and DSL...... Prices just can't go up or they'll lose their customers.

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If you call your cable company right now and say you want to cancel because you can't afford it.... They most likely will offer to give you the next 3 months for or $19.98... That's what they did when I called. Image

They really want your business.
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Keropi wrote:Has anyone using Time Warner started experiencing dropped connections and slower service the past few weeks?
I had the same problem as well. I've been working remotely from home for the past year. Not being able to get to my company's online programs or only being able to e-mail my client at 1-2am (when the system would decide it was OK to let me on) became unacceptable. I mean the situation was affecting my job for goodness sake!

We switched to Verizon FIOS last week and haven’t had any problems.
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Hmm...I saw this news story on the front of Yahoo today:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nf/20080603/bs_nf/60098

I hope they don't use that system where I live. 40 Gb a month isn't so much when a number of anime files/raws are now in the 300Mb+ range.

I'd prefer quantity over speed. 250 kilobits per second with 60 Gb cap per month would be much better for me than a 15 megabits per second 40GB cap per month. :)

I suppose the video sites will become a lot more popular as these restrictions become more pervasive. The tough part is that they're counting both uploading and downloading. :hurt:
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Post by Keropi »

I used Bandwidth Monitor Pro from June 3rd early afternoon to July 4th evening and during the time my computer was on I discovered I used up:

33.78 Gb download
4.18 Gb upload

and 37.96 Gb total

But...I would have used more bandwidth if I wasn't paying attention to what I was doing. Among other things, I was trying to limit the number of times I downloaded the same anime episode.
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