Sailor Moon cel collectors HELP NEEDED!!

Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:58 am

Long story short. I was looking through LJ a few minutes ago and noticed someone selling sketches (listed on individual pages as douga) and cels that they were NOT READILY saying were fan cels or real cels. To me they look fake. The sketches that look like genga look fake.

But I noticed she had 2 people interested in her items and I don't want them taken advantage of if I can stop it.

Her link to the post is here --> http://pixelmari.livejournal.com/6371.html

Can anyone confirm they look fake as all heck for me..?

ZombieBunny · Post by **ZombieBunny** » Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:03 am

They have them listed on ebay as well.

In the description they do say,

YOU GET WHAT YOU SEE
I DO NOT KNOW KNOW IF THEY ARE THE REAL DEAL, BOUGHT FROM JAPAN

They are fake, at least the cels are. They are fan cels.
As for the sketches, they are copies.

So they are not real but they do say they don't know if they are or not at least on ebay. On the Livejournal thing, yea she is lying lol they are not originals.

Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:07 am

I didn't know they were listed on e-bay. That's great. Thank you for letting me know. I find it odd she didn't specify that on her LJ account but did so on the auction. I really didn't want the 2 potential buyers to get suckered by her.

Thank you!

ZombieBunny · Post by **ZombieBunny** » Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:53 am

Serendipity_Collections wrote:I didn't know they were listed on e-bay. That's great. Thank you for letting me know. I find it odd she didn't specify that on her LJ account but did so on the auction. I really didn't want the 2 potential buyers to get suckered by her.

Thank you!

Not a problem ^_^

Hope the buyers realize that they are not originals

Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:04 am

They do now. Because I messaged them to notify them.

pixie_princess · Post by **pixie_princess** » Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:44 am

The 2 cels are badly done fancels -look at the eyes on Sailor Moon, the bow on Mercury.... Also check out the colors used. I know the Mercury looks based off of one of the openings. Its also easy to see where the SM is based off of. There are no markings at the top and those cels do not look trimmed down so they are most likely not pan/oversized cels that were vicitims of being cut.

Also, all those sketches that have the multiple perferations at the top are simply from one of those books that reprints the genga from a specific season. I'm surprised you haven't seen those books Toei put out considering how long you've been a Sailor Moon fan

If you are curious, this is what the front page in one of those books looks like:
http://galexia.rubberslug.com/gallery/i ... mID=293687

Those 'books' usually go for $26-$45 depending where you buy them from. They have around 30 pages I think. It has been a while since I looked at mine.

Also, with that LJ user... I do think she's trying to play 'innocent' a bit too much if you know what I mean. Considering the fact that she's been so rude to you there, I'd be leery of purchasing things from her.

edit:
Found this:
http://aquantis.tripod.com/settei/BSSM- ... eview.html

cutiebunny · Post by **cutiebunny** » Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:40 am

The registration holes are off and they don't have sequence numbers. Those two things alone would have made me question the authenticity of the artwork.

I second that most of the sheets were taken from the douga books, perhaps somewhat violently. Granted, I've never tried to take any of the ones I own apart, but I can't see how four staples would leave that huge of a hole.

This is not the first time that this seller has done this. She's tried to sell a counterfeit douga made from the scan of one of my Chibimoon cels. Last time, though, E-bay made her annotate that the auctions were fan art and not a legitimate product.

Perhaps she thinks that we're no longer checking E-bay? Baka.

Starfighter · Post by **Starfighter** » Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:59 am

This person reminds me of Mary Walker. She first stole images from galleries and created Mini-Cels she said theye were from japan . After she was called on it she decided to sell really bad copies of douga and sketches from Card captor Sakura and were called on it again . She was reported to the studio and she disappeared. Either this person is Mary Walker or someone trying to copy what she did . We have to let Everyone know that they are fakes.

Starfighter

Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:24 pm

Pixie princess...

I knew the pages were from the book. But I forgot it was a genga book. She tries to pass them off as used in production art. I think of that as Genga and Douga. to me these are just basic copies of the key shetches. Maybe I thought about it the wrong way....

I KNOW I am not going to buy from her. ^_^ Hell no! LOL I was looking to see what people were looking for when I did a search on key words. The key words took me to her page and viola that's how I posted. Considering her behavior with me on LJ and the mutiple private message mail I got from that whole thing with people telling me she was rude and always never seemed to want to give details on her pieces but instead pressured people to buy... my red flag went up again. I wanted her to not get some poor person without them knowing.

CutieBunny: OMG your kidding me right? LOL. Such as ass she is. Are you on LJ too..? Or is it me and your screen name ? As I was mentioning above I thought and truly thought she was trying to pull as fast one. So I wanted to have those people notified.

Starfighter...
Yes we do. I posted a message to storm in LJ Serasell group as I was not sure she would want me to make a full on post again about her considering what happened last time. But I may just do it anyway. I don't want anyone to get stuck with something she is trying to pass off.

Starfighter · Post by **Starfighter** » Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:01 pm

I'm glad this info is getting around so whoever this is can be stopped. I was not thrilled with what happened last time . My cel images from my rubberslug gallery were used to make her mini-cels and they were sold before she was stopped . Someone from beta caught her when she tried to sell fake ccs sketches and donga that were also being sold on jy.

Thanks for the update

Starfighter

Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:39 pm

Starfighter... unfortunatly her name according to her paypal account (as I stopped selling to her and refunded her, drama big time) Was Teresa and not Mary. Even though her ID is pixelmari. So for that we are at a loss. I would have been pissed to be in your shoes when that happened. I am glad I wasn't but I do know the feeling of being used. One can only hope to keep this from happening to others.

Tomuki · Post by **Tomuki** » Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:21 pm

I would certainly think this is Mary.

http://pixelmari.livejournal.com/5365.html

Towards the bottom of that page she gives her mailing address as:

*address removed by request*

... sadly for some, old habits die hard

-hope this helps

Starfighter · Post by **Starfighter** » Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:27 pm

Well I guess her name is mary not terresa maybe she was just using a different name not to get caught. Tomuki Thanks for seeing that . I guess it was a good idea to close my rubberslug gallery. I guess I have to be on the lookout for my cels being sold as mini-cels again. When do people ever learn when the cops are at her door for fraud.

Starfighter

Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:32 pm

hum... her addy in paypal is ...
*address removed by request*

(slightly edited) .... is it possible it's the same person..??

I need as much info as possible. I will be sending this to the group for them to post. so we don't have cel people or not getting into issues with her.

cutiebunny · Post by **cutiebunny** » Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:33 pm

Serendipity_Collections wrote:CutieBunny: OMG your kidding me right? LOL. Such as ass she is. Are you on LJ too..? Or is it me and your screen name ? As I was mentioning above I thought and truly thought she was trying to pull as fast one. So I wanted to have those people notified.

Nope, I'm not on LJ.

This was the cel that was copied - http://cutiebunny.rubberslug.com/galler ... mID=222264

In the douga in question, she even put a fake sequence number on the top right hand corner, but the image matched up to the one that I had online. However, since most of my images are cropped, the portion of the artwork that was not featured was not on the douga.

The majority of items in my gallery do not have any sequence number information simply because I don't want other collectors to be tricked due to the sequence number. Most counterfeiters don't bother to do research on sequence numbers, and they're not likely to sit around, pause frame by frame, and actually count out how many shots were used prior to the appearance of their artwork.